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    Nvidia cheats on 3DMark with 177.39 drivers

    True or hype? Either way it could hurt them...

    Nvidia’s recent driver release to journalists and customers artificially increases their 3DMark Vantage score (particularly in performance mode) by running Physics on the GPU instead of the CPU, in violation of FutureMark’s driver optimization policy.

    … word is beginning to spread around the web

    http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/06/23/nvidia-cheats-3dmark-177

    http://www.tech-forums.net/pc/f62/nvidia-cheats-3dmark-vantage-178149/

    http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/article.asp?CIID=115001

    http://www.techzonept.com/showthread.php?p=3129101

    http://www.hardware.info/en-US/extcontent/ZpiZaJhkmZjGaJSXyA/Nvidia_cheats_on_3DMark_with_17739_drivers/

    http://www.overclock.net/software-news/348341-inq-nvidia-cheats-3dmark-177-39-a.html

    MORE NEWS!

    NVIDIA is trying the best to detract from the great performance of the HD 4800 series, but despite going to the lengths of paper launching products, its falling on deaf ears.

    AnandTech today takes a closer look at GeForce 9800 GTX+ (not available until July) and here is what he concludes:

    http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3340&p=6

    “The Radeon HD 4850 continues to be a better buy than NVIDIA's GeForce 9800 GTX, even if both are priced at $199. The overclocked, 55nm 9800 GTX+ manages to rarely outperform the 4850 but for the most part isn't competitive enough to justify the extra $30. AMD was quick to point out that by the time the 9800 GTX+ ships that it will also have factory overclocked 4850s, which should make things even more interesting. Because, honestly, a factory overclocked Radeon HD 4850 is far more attractive to us than an overclocked GTX+.

    In a little over 12 hours we'll be able to complete the story with a full look at AMD's RV770 GPU and the Radeon HD 4870, so for a full, detailed performance analysis come back then. Until then, in short, the 9800 GTX+ doesn't really change anything for NVIDIA.

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    Nvidia cheats on 3DMark with 177.39 drivers

    wow! I didn't even know they had a 48xx series out yet...

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    Nvidia cheats on 3DMark with 177.39 drivers

    lol, dude where you been. The 4000 series have been hotly anticipated for months. I think I'm going to upgrade to either a 4850 or a 260 when the dust settles. Depending on where the price point is.

    I don't really read much into the Nvidia thing. I think they knew what they were doing when they were cheating. But honestly If all you go by is 3dMark scores to evaluate your purchase then your asking for trouble. 3dmark is a good tool to gauge certain things but not to determine what GPU to buy. Read some reviews for that.

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    Nvidia cheats on 3DMark with 177.39 drivers

    Ugh, I just got an 8800 gt. If I were to upgrade again I would get a 4850. They're $200 and the same as the $300 4870 except for clock speed, stock cooler, and memory type. The gtx 280 is $650, and that much of a price jump just doesn't justify the performance increase for me. That's just me, though. I haven't been following the hardware scene lately, I've been too busy. If I had been smart I would have known about the upcoming releases and sold my gt before the inevitable loss of interest and price drop. Oh well, I don't need an upgrade anyway for what I do.

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    Nvidia cheats on 3DMark with 177.39 drivers

    Oh wow, I have a 8500gt and this is making me feel waaay behind. Then again its not like I need an upgrade anyways

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    Nvidia cheats on 3DMark with 177.39 drivers

    oh well... I am happy with my 7800GT for HL and HL2 mods, plus a little bit of Halo:CE every once in a while.

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    Nvidia cheats on 3DMark with 177.39 drivers

    2 x 8800gt cards play any game i throw at it...im happy way not a good price the a 650.....thing radeon is slowly starting to take over nvidia....lol

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    Nvidia cheats on 3DMark with 177.39 drivers

    Well I am sure everyone, uh... manipulates the drivers one way or another.
    Unfortunately most people tend to bass what card they want on synthetic test results. It does give you an idea about the performance, but it also depends on the rest of the system. Many of times with the testing we do you can get totally and I mean totally different results within a day without doing anything to the system.

    But it comes down to this....not my style but for some it is.....

    "It is not cheating until you get caught"

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    Nvidia cheats on 3DMark with 177.39 drivers

    "its not cheating untill you get caught"

    hmso cheating without anyone knowing? whoa....bit unfair to mislead someone though...im glad i go for test results in games (the card frames) aswell as its 3d mark score....thats somthing everyone should do...

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    Nvidia cheats on 3DMark with 177.39 drivers

    This is another reason of exactly why I trust the reviews on here and in CPU magazine rather than some of the more popularly available publications which will remain nameless.

    "A good test doesn't rely on a single baseline.
    If it does, then the results are only as good as the data and how it's being manipulated."

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